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The Hanoverian Royal Creams
This page is in progress, and some of the statements on here have already been disproved or cast in serious doubt. Please give the researchers credit if you copy anything from here.
(Was: an attempt at tracing the origins of the Champagne color gene)NOTICE: THESE HORSES ARE NOT ROYAL HANOVERIAN CREAMS, but are American Cream Draft Horses and crosses: http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-34090
The SearchIn 1999, I emailed Dorothy Beardsley-Smith, an American Cream Draft Horse breeder in California (since deceased), to ask her to help us determine whether the breed was basically gold champagne in color. She replied to me that some of them speculated that the breed - and thus color - might have derived from the now-extinct Hanoverian Cream.I immediately contacted everyone I knew and didn't know who might have more information on this. Only a few had anything to say on the subject at all. Dr. Sponenberg said he thought the color of the ACDH's came through a Mustang of Spanish southwestern U.S. descent. The present-day Hanoverian people said they had never heard of such a thing, and the color surely would have been considered undesirable.Finally, in August 2001, Carolyn Shepard found, and emailed me, an excerpt from an old issue of the Palomino Magazine from the 1940's, which mentioned the Hanoverian Royal Creams (see below).Around that time Julia Lord, another online friend, was emailing me excerpts from old books she had read, about the colors of dun, palomino and champagne (see below). We shared the Hanoverian Cream information with her, and she sic'ed a historian friend of hers on it. Soon, she was sending me links, which I then followed to others, many mentioning "the Creams" and the British royal family.But the coup de grace was when a friend of Julia's suggested a particular book which mentioned "the Creams" quite a lot, scattered throughout it. She was kind enough to tell me the title, and I (and Carolyn and she) all promptly ordered used copies online. It's called The Royal Office of Master of the Horse. I have found it to be an incredible treasure trove of information and pictures.I've attempted to report the essence of all the above information, below:
Here is a lot of that info I've collected:
This, plus photos and information from Chris Ertl, my visit to Carol Pshigoda's Cream Acres, and other reading, convinced me that the ideal ACDH was and is a true gold champagne. But that's for another page. This search took another turn here, as I looked to see if the Hanoverian Royal Creams were the origins of the American Cream Draft Horse. The timing was almost right; the creams were dispersed in 1920, and Old Granny, the foundation mare of the ACDH breed, appeared in Iowa in 1911.
The Hanoverian Royal CreamsFirst, the book recommended by Julia's friend:*Why "not strong enough"? Look this quote: "The eight specially-trained horses needed to pull the four-ton coach... "
Another diary entry of Queen Victoria's, mentioning "six creams", here: http://www.royal.gov.uk/history/journ06.htm Sorry. The diaries appear to have been completely removed from the official British royal site. I should have copied it. I'm learning.
The earliest reference I can find to the color name "champagne" in Europe so far is applied to the color of the FJORDS, which do not carry the actual champagne gene.
The following excerpt is from this page:
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Notice these interesting excerpts from thePalomino Horse Association History"The Palomino Horse Association is the Original Palomino Registry incorporated in 1936. Today's Palomino Horse Association is the continuation of the registry which officially began in California in 1935, when Dick Halliday registered the golden stallion El Rey de Los Reyes to begin the records of his envisioned true Palomino Breed. Mr. Halliday researched the golden horses for many years. He started writing magazine articles that brought the Palomino into public attention. His articles created a great deal of interest in the Palomino, and within a few years, hundreds of breeders were specializing in the production of this color.""The Palomino has come down through the pages of history. There are stories of the Golden Ones linked to the Crusades; the mail-clad Crusaders saw them on the battlefield when they fought the desert chiefs of Saladin who rode them. You will find stories about them among the Arabs and the Moors. During the days of the Crusades the Emir Saladin presented Richard-Coeur-de-Lion with two splendid war horses, one was a gray and the other a Golden Palomino. The place of origin of the Palomino probably never will be conclusively determined. Myths and legends of various countries shroud the beginnings of the golden horse which is no modern phenomenon. The golden horse with ivory-colored mane and tail appears in ancient tapestries and paintings of Europe and Asia, as well in Japenese and Chinese art of past centuries.""Nowhere has the history of the Palomino been recorded, but most horsemen agree that all light bodied horses have descended from the Arab and the Barb.""These splendid golden horses were favored by her Majesty Ysabella de-Bourbon, that beloved queen who pawned her jewels that the expenses of the expedition which discovered the New World might be paid. In the Remuda Real of Spain, Queen Ysabella kept a full hundred of these animals and as the chosen favorites of the crown, only the members of the royal family and the nobles of the household were permitted to ride them. A commoner might not even own one. It is recorded that Queen Ysabella sent a Palomino stallion and five mares to her Viceroy in New Spain, which is to say Mexico, to perpetuate the golden horse in the New World. From this nucleus, the blood spread into Texas plains, and from Texas it came to California."(Webmaster's notes: the golden horses of Queen Isabella are said, in the "Master of the Horse" book, to be foundation stock of the Hanoverian Creams. Today, the AFCCC, the French champagne horse registry, describes a dark pointed horse in their brochure as "Isabelle + champagne = ivory". )"The word 'Palomino' is a Spanish surname. Many feel that Palomino is only a color and not a breed, which is true in that the color of Palomino comes in all breeds, but the Palomino of Spanish times, the Golden Dorado, was as close to being a breed as any strain of horse. The Dorado was of Arabic-Moorish-Spanish blood and breeding, closely akin to the Arabian and the Moorish Barb. The Palomino of Spanish times was not bred by being crossed with sorrels. The Spanish had many shades of golden horses, and when they did use 'Corral Breeding', a light color Palomino mare would be mated with a very dark-colored Palomino stallion. This point has been noted in an old book and printed in Barcelona in 1774."(My note: this is the way one would expect GOLD CHAMPAGNES to be bred. Cream-gene-based Palominos would produce cremellos and chestnuts if bred this way. This webmaster has not applied this principle to see if they were PEARL as of this writing.) |
• Also known as Golden Horse, Buttermilk Horse, Golden Horse of the West,
Cafe-au-Lait in France, Royal Hanoverian Cream, Hanoverian Cream in England,
Isabella, Y'sabella and Golden Horse of the Queen
• The ancient golden palomino colouring occurs in a variety of horses and ponies
- the Palomino is therefore registered as a type, as opposed to a breed
• The Spanish brought the palomino colouring to America which is the only place
where the horses is recognised as a breed
• The American Palomino Horse Association registers horses measuring between
14.1 and 16 hands high. To qualify for registration, one parent must be
registered and the other must be Quarter Horse, Arab or Thoroughbred
• The name of this horse may derive from a Spanish don, Juan de Palomino or a
golden Spanish grape
• This horses origins are likely to come from ancient China. History tells
stories of early Chinese emperors riding golden horses. However, as mentioned
they came to American from Spain
• When the Spanish were defeated the Palominos escaped and joined wild mustang
bands. They became a popular mount for cowboys.
• The Palomino was developed by Queen Isabella of Spain in the 15th century for
her personal use
• The mane and tail are silvery white and should not contain more than 15% dark
hair
• Eyes are dark or hazel and both same color
• There may be white markings on face
• An alert, curious horse who despite being fiery, works well with people
• Popular Uses: Riding, parades, stock work, driving and pleasure
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